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General Category => Sports & Leisure => Topic started by: Doreen on 22 Sep, 2019, 08:34:48 am
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Well the first match of the day is Ireland V Scotland. May the best team win 🇮🇪 😬☘️
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Well done Ireland and England today. :clap:
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Good luck to Ireland today against Japan. 🙏🏻☘️🇮🇪
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Bit of an upset for Ireland, oh dear still should qualify for next stage@
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Yes Jimmymac, a big surprise there for sure. After hammering Scotland they may have got complacent. Hopefully they get their act together for the next match. ☘️🇮🇪
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Yes Jimmy. Japan also beat South Africa in the 2015 World Cup and S.Africa went on to finish third behind a strong Australian side then and the champions New Zealand.
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Up early tomorrow, 5k walk, housework and then Ireland V Russia. Let's hope Ireland play better than the last match. ☘️🇮🇪
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Not the most impressive performance from Ireland, but a win is a win. Well done lads. 🇮🇪
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Who are your favourites Jimmymac ? Ireland got a bonus point today, but their execution needs to improve and hopefully Sexton who was injured will recovery for the rest of the tournament. The home nations are all going well and if Scotland can beat Japan well in ten days time, they will all go through to the next phase.
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Good luck to England this morning 👍🏻
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Shame Argentina had a man sent off so early, as 22-3 now with 25 minutes left, England have surely won this match-Argentina look tired. However, interesting all the pundits in the studio including Sir Clive Woodward and the TMO called it as a clear red card, except the Welsh referee who was only a few metres away and had a clear view of the high neck tackle. :shocked:
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Finest referee in the game and he only asked for clarification quite rightly from the TMO. Thats what they are there for .
He said he could see no mitigation against a red card. TMO agreed Excellent refereeing.
It was a red card and england would have won regardless but they were under a lot of pressure before the sending off.
Well done to them.
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Shame Argentina had a man sent off so early, as 22-3 now with 25 minutes left, England have surely won this match-Argentina look tired. However, interesting all the pundits in the studio including Sir Clive Woodward and the TMO called it as a clear red card, except the Welsh referee who was only a few metres away and had a clear view of the high neck tackle. :shocked:
You need to watch it again. :rolleyes:
Nigel controlled the game brilliantly as he always does. Not everyone is a bigot.
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I watched the entire match including the observations made by, "only" Johnny Wilkinson, Sir Clive Woodward and Lawrence Dallaglio and I guess I am only repeating what they said. Did you see it ? The referee could have been Irish, Scottish or any nationality really, they just said he was the Welsh referee that missed a clear red card. The referee admitted he did not see it, to the amazement of myself and the three ex.rugby professionaals above as he had a clear view only a few metres away. You cannot always keep your eye on the ball, can you ? The TMO came in to assist. I do not think the above rugby players are bigots either. The relationship between the TMO and the referee worked here.
Wales were offside in their winning try against Australia. The offside line was in the wrong place and the TMO did not review it correctly. The TMO was blasted, and he was openly spoken about to be from New Zealand. You may have watched that game to conclude "that not everyone is a bigot" :wink:
No need to apologise Doreen and no this is not a lecture ! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Oh so you didn’t actually have an opinion, just repeating someone else. Strange.
When you know what you are talking about rejoin the debate.
My husband said once a person understands the game it’s easy to discuss the pros and cons, impossible though when someone doesn’t . 😬
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Marcus , you might want to watch Kieran Reids totally illegal and dangerous armless tackle on Rumball the Canadian and the referee didnt see fit to issue a card and the governing body didnt either but then we dont want the All Black captain red carded do we ?! Who was the referee. ??
I find it amusing to see you quoting what ( Sir ) Woodward ( sic ) had To say and Wilkinson and Dallaglio had to say.??
Remind me again where all these renowned experts come from .?????
Yes , thought so.
Nigel did not miss it as you put it , he just asked for clarification as I would expect him to do .
Quoting over the hill English players to find fault with one of the greatest ( honest ) referees in the game is not nice and not called for.
Nigel has had lots of issues in his life and thats his business but he was perfect as he can be in his handling of this incident.
Leave other issues at home please.
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https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/sir-clive-woodward-criticises-nigel-17036550
Dear Raymondo and Doreen, here it is from the Coach of the WINNING 2003 World Cup. I think he knows what he is talking about, and my opinion matched his that is all. I respect your decision to support the referee and his experience, but yet again the viewing public on this forum will see that you got the needle about something when in fact you missed the thread all along. Let´s leave the opinions here and move on to support the home nations left in the tournament. Well done England for being the first country to go through to the quater finals.
p.s. Try not to lecture me as Doreen has previously said she does not like it and I am one of her favourites :wink: :laugh: :laugh:
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😂😂😂😂😂
If I had to pick a favourite certain type of person :undecided:, you would definitely be my first choice. I actually think you could get 1st prize.
If you consider it a lecture so be it. I will say again watch the match and make up your own mind.
Now let's leave the comments there.
Have a great day, hope the air isn't too thin for you. 🙏🏻
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You cannot lecture someone to leave it there. Please.
Keep to the subject please, this is a thread about the decision yesterday. The article I quoted-you do not agree with ? Why some people do not accept the views of Sir Clive Woodward (maybe he was watching another incident :laugh:)is their choice. I am certain you could find and name hundreds of rugby incidents where the referee has been wrong. Many TMO decisions have been wrong and the decision/result remained.
Let us hope Scotland can beat Japan and progress to reach the quarter finals as well, as it seems Wales and Ireland should also make it through to the next phase of the tournament.
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Does having a knighthood mean Clive Woodward is the Rugby expert .??
Did Jimmy Saville have one as well.??? Sir Rolf.?? God help us.
Thought it strange that Marcus who seems very knowledgeable about Rugby but called him the Welsh referre,???
Or was it a ghoswriter ??
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Raymondo you last said .....Or was it a ghoswriter ?? What is a ghoswriter ? In relation to my original post on the decision by the referee you are miles from the thread.
Sir Clive Woodward is his title, and you drag up Sir Rolf and Jimmy Saville in your reply ?
Can you explain as many members and guests must be thinking what is Raymondo talking about now.
Maybe the (GB) fairies are out and about now ahead of 31/10! :wink:
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Another topic spoiled by petty remarks, seems to be certain members are continuing a feud from the previous forum. Give it a rest please!!! :sad:
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Indeed Jimmy. What I have witnessed is members going off subject to be rude and recently the "blame game" as you said. Judy was polite in saying model members.
On subject, what a brilliant game of rugby today between Wales and Fiji. Wales down twice during a brutal and physical game came through with a stunning Josh Adams hat trick. Wales now qualify for the next phase. Well done Wales. With the typhoon predicted to hit Japan this weekend, if it does it will be the first time in the history of the Rugby World Cup that games will be cancelled. Games cancelled will be recorded as 0-0 draws. If that happens Wales will then face France and England will play Australia. The typhoon could continue through Sunday, so Scotland are at risk of losing out after a great performance today 61-0. Scotland will be strong favourites to beat Japan, so let us hope the Typhoon misses Japan altogether. With the size of each Rugby squad (31 players) I would have thought the games could be rescheduled as the quarter finals do not begin until 19/10.
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After the typhoon the game went ahead and Japan beat Scotland, only the second time time in World Cup history have Scotland gone home without going through to the knock out stages. Scotland did not play poorly but Japan were on fire, suprisingly excellent and must now be looking to beat South Africa again after their win in 2015. It will be a tough ask, but home advantage will raise their game. England to knock out the Aussies, Ireland to emaulate their win against the All Blacks in Dublin nearly a year ago and Wales to beat France would be amazing.
Good luck this weekend. England first up Saturday, then Ireland, with hopefully Wales to go through on Sunday. Japan v S.Africa-could be the game of the tournament.
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England are 3 to 1 on with the bookies. That is a bit flattering as I think even both coaches are expecting a close game. Difficult to call as Australia have played ball in hand as opposed to England mixing it with kicking the ball when Eddie Jones has dictated it. Can he emulate Sir Clive Woodward ? Australia will start stronger I feel with England getting stronger in the latter stages of the game. Hear we go.
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Well, that was a load of fun :thumbsup: :cool: :tiphat: :lol:
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Well done England, only 34% of the ball, but Australia attacked and England defended. Shame it was not closer for the neutrals but we will all take an England v Ireland semi-final. Come on Ireland in the next match.
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That game was *interesting* Ireland only turned up at around 65 minutes, but the All Blacks look to be a force to be reckoned with next weekend :thumbsup:
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Indeed. I think New Zealand are stronger than they were in 2015. Good spread of talent across the squad. Dan Carter was a legend and the worry is his repacement Mo´unga looks impressive. England will need to be faultless. Should be a great weekend next week with Wales going through in a nail biiting finish earlier this morning. Well done indeed.
Japan will show their pace today and their exciting brand of rugby against the mighty Springboks. S.Africa will have a score to settle after they were beaten by them four years ago. France had a man sent off whilst ahead, and then lost. S.Africa just had a prop yellow carded so Japan must get a few points now after an early try by S.A. to stand a chance. What I did not know until today is that Japan are ranked the 7th best team in the world, S.Africa 5th. We all know what the result should be ? Enjoy.
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Well done S.Africa. Japan were fast and fearless, hats off to them as the host nation, a great performance, but against the physical strength of the mighty Springboks they faded after that 66 minute try. Wales will hope S.Africa make the same amount of miss tackles and mishandling they made today, when they meet next week. The best is yet to come hopefully from all four sides, and at the moment New Zealand are showing they are the best, of course back to back champions. If only Ireland had won it would have been the icing on the cake. Next time Ireland, new coach, new captain and a new era. Watch out for France in the six nations if they let their youngsters through.
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Looking forward next week to the semi-finals, think England v New Zealand could be a classic, I am supporting England but feel N.Z. are the better team overall. As for Wales v South Africa, don't know could be the one who plays best on the day. What do I know about rugby anyway? :blank:
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What do I know about rugby anyway?
I know what you are saying, it's a strange sort of game and not from my part of the world, BUT compared to the pushing and getting stuck in rugby; the game of football (soccer) looks pretty tame when someone rolls over crying as soon as his hair is out of place :whistle:
I'm enjoying watching.... roll on next weekend :thumbsup:
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Great game going on between England v New Zealand. England just had a second try disallowed at 10-0 up. First try was obstructin, but the panel are straching their heads as Jamie George even told the referee his hands did not leave the ball. Cannot go against the TMO though ! Will it inspire England even more or give N.Zealand a lift ? 13-0 now to England.
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Mag :lips-sealed: nificent !!!!
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Well done England, watched the match this morning and they fully deserved their victory. Now we are waiting to see if Wales can join them in the final. :grin:
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Come on Wales. I am sure they will not give S.Africa a sixteen point half time lead, probably prefer to give them a sixteen pint start ! Wales are gram slam champions and indeed have have the heavier pack and have beaten S.Africa on the last four occasions. Meeting England in the final will hopefully be the incentive to ensure they go through ? S.Africa have scored 11 more tries, 55 more points and conceded less points than than Wales on their way to this match, so bang in form. Hopefully a classic. Enjoy.
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Watching the match, very close survival of the fittest.
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Fine margins Jimmy. George North was a big loss going off with an injury early in the game. However, the S.African defence was mighty and "powerful". French referee was excellent. Too much kicking for me, but the game locked at 16 all until the final winning penalty made for a tense finish. Congratulations to S.Africa and credit to Wales, nearly over the finish line if the dropped goal had gone over.
Looking forward to next week.
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I really enjoyed the game today and the Welsh did good but before the game I didn't ever think they were any match for the All Blacks. The outcome was as I expected but they played well and did their best I suppose.
Bring on the bokkas tomorrow 10am here on ITV - put the England flag up early if you have a flagpole :cool:
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Ah well, England were back to their old style of play. Springboks much better on the day.
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Well done S.Africa. Far too strong in the scrum where Dan Cole was given a big ask to play nearly the entire match.Penalties conceded from the scrum just gave S.Africa the points they deserved from a powerful display. England stayed in the game at 18-12 until the Springboks delivered the style of rugby they were accused of not possessing.
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Not much to say really, only that England were beaten by the better team on the day. Congrats South Africa, unlucky England, only 4 year wait to try again! :cry:
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South Africa try: Was there a forward pass before Makazole Mapimpi scored against England?
Winger scored crucial try in Rugby World Cup final but England fans were very upset with referee Jerome Garces and his officiating team.....all too late now and we cant, sorry can´t blame the referee. Just move on and get over it !
Still finished a proud second in the competition.