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Title: Pandemic
Post by: Ukulele on 09 Mar, 2020, 10:25:53 pm
So it looks as if the coronavirus is well established further north in Spain, and will very likely move south.

Perhaps this is the time for this forum to do what it does best.

Share information, without spreading panic or unfounded gossip.


I went on the internet, and the only useful information I gleaned was that the coronavirus helpline number in Spain  was 061.

Maybe that is all the official information we need.

But, if the situation changes, perhaps we need a dedicated board, so that if times get tough, we can share information and support each

other.
Title: Re: Pandemic
Post by: Judi_bk on 10 Mar, 2020, 07:44:40 am
Good idea.  I do think that we are less likely to have a problem in such a rural area.  The biggest concentrations of the virus so far have been in cities
Title: Re: Pandemic
Post by: Roscoe on 10 Mar, 2020, 11:01:22 am
Well said Ukelele.  My worry is the amount of people coming over from the UK  this Easter to our area by various forms of travel.
Title: Re: Pandemic
Post by: frankie on 10 Mar, 2020, 02:26:32 pm
The visitors to this area could pose the strongest threat to us but are more likely to be hit down on the Costas.  I just think we need to play it by ear as time goes on.
I'm off now to buy all the toilet roll stock Mercadona has.... :wink:
Title: Re: Pandemic
Post by: Ukulele on 11 Mar, 2020, 05:43:31 pm
If you think you have contracted coronavirus, this is the number you should ring for help and advice.

955 54 50 60

The advice is, phone the number, do not go to the health centre or hospital.
Title: Re: Pandemic
Post by: Roscoe on 11 Mar, 2020, 05:57:43 pm
Cantoria have cancelled  all cultural  and sporting events for the foreseeable future to try and contain the virus.  On Facebook a quiz night has asked whether their regulars want to carry on, all seem happy to carry on.
Title: Re: Pandemic
Post by: Roscoe on 11 Mar, 2020, 05:59:21 pm
Thanks Ukelele, but I have read you can call on 061.
Title: Re: Pandemic
Post by: Judi_bk on 12 Mar, 2020, 11:51:49 am
From Albox last night

Buenas noches.
Ante la evolución de la actual situación sanitaria por el coronavirus en toda ESPAÑA , el Ayuntamiento de ALBOX va a poner en marcha, de modo inmediato y mediante publicación de un bando, que:
A partir de mañana el CIERRE de todas las dependencias municipales culturales y deportivas, bibliotecas municipales, escuela de música y TAMBIÉN QUEDAN SUSPENDIDAS TODAS LAS ESCUELAS MUNICIPALES DEPORTIVAS, CINE, CULTURALES, PREGÓN SEMANA SANTA, TODOS LOS TALLERES Y ACTIVIDADES PROGRAMADAS Y MERCADOS SEMANALES.
Estas disposiciones se aplicarán de modo temporal y estarán siempre supeditadas a la evolución y seguimiento de la situación que están haciendo las autoridades sanitarias.

Espero entiendan la decisión, es como medida de prevención.
Saludos

Also friends went to Mercadona..NO MEAT except frozen.  Lidl was as normal
Title: Re: Pandemic - update from Albox Mayor
Post by: nanaspain on 12 Mar, 2020, 11:53:00 am
Hi all - for information, this statement was issued by the Mayor of Albox yesterday evening and is a translation of the post Judi made whilst I was typing this !!:-

Neighbors:
Good night.
In view of the evolution of the current health situation due to the coronavirus in all of SPAIN, the ALBOX City Council is going to start up, immediately and by publishing a statement, that:
 As of tomorrow, the CLOSING of all municipal cultural and sports units, municipal libraries, music school and ALSO ALL MUNICIPAL SPORTS SCHOOLS, CINEMA, CULTURAL, HOLY WEEK, ALL WORKSHOPS AND PROGRAMMED ACTIVITIES AND WEEKLY MARKETS.
 These provisions will be applied temporarily and will always be subject to the evolution and monitoring of the situation that the health authorities are doing.

 I hope you understand the decision, it is as a preventive measure.
Title: Re: Pandemic
Post by: Drax on 12 Mar, 2020, 01:07:06 pm
But not the bars or education schools  :whistle:
Title: Re: Pandemic
Post by: Drax on 12 Mar, 2020, 01:28:42 pm
Advice being passed around
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I'm sure we all want to take responsibility for ourselves and those around us. I hope you find these simple notes useful

DAILY CHECK:

Take a deep breath and hold your breath for more than 10 seconds. If you complete it successfully without coughing, without discomfort, stiffness or tightness, etc., it proves there is no Fibrosis in the lungs, basically indicates no infection. In this critical time, please self-check every morning in an environment with clean air.

1. If you have a runny nose and sputum, you have a common cold

2. Coronavirus pneumonia is a dry cough with no runny nose.

3. This new virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed by a temperature of just 26/27 degrees. It hates the Sun.

4. If someone sneezes with it, it takes about 10 feet before it drops to the ground and is no longer airborne.

5. If it drops on a metal surface it will live for at least 12 hours - so if you come into contact with any metal surface - wash your hands as soon as you can with a bacterial soap.

6. On fabric it can survive for 6-12 hours. normal laundry detergent will kill it.

7. Drinking warm water is effective for all viruses. Try not to drink liquids with ice.

8. Wash your hands frequently as the virus can only live on your hands for 5-10 minutes, but - a lot can happen during that time - you can rub your eyes, pick your nose unwittingly and so on.

THE SYMPTOMS

1. It will first infect the throat, so you'll have a sore throat lasting 3/4 days

2. The virus then blends into a nasal fluid that enters the trachea and then the lungs, causing pneumonia. This takes about 5/6 days further.

3. With the pneumonia comes high fever and difficulty in breathing.

4. The nasal congestion is not like the normal kind. You feel like you're drowning. It's imperative you then seek immediate attention.

STAY SAFE

Title: Re: Pandemic
Post by: frankie on 12 Mar, 2020, 03:33:05 pm
I am curious re one of the below, Drax.  It is number 3, concerning heat.  If that is the case, how come it has spread in a number of countries in the Southern hemisphere, far hotter than here?  What makes them say it dos not survive in heat as they are still learning how it will behave as it is a new strain?
Title: Re: Pandemic
Post by: jimmymac on 12 Mar, 2020, 05:14:44 pm
Good point frankie about the heat. Seeing that we have had record breaking March temperatures of 31C yesterday and 29C today, one would have thought that Corona would be dead in this area or at least mortally wounded by now. Never mind still carry on washing my hands in case it's still lurking around.... :tiphat:
Title: Re: Pandemic
Post by: Drax on 12 Mar, 2020, 07:03:15 pm
It's a strain of the flu - people only have flu jabs coming into the winter season...

Those in the warmer climates at the moment have been affected by an influx of people from the Wuhan region and spread by travel

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2020/03/08/coronavirus-warm-spring-could-stop-virus-tracks/
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/1233100/coronavirus-outbreak-countries-where-is-coronavirus-travel-advice
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/uk-weather-23c-spring-warm-21654355
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/11/will-spring-slow-spread-of-coronavirus-in-northern-hemisphere

etc. etc.
The warmer weather will kill it off..
Title: Re: Pandemic
Post by: BRIMAR on 12 Mar, 2020, 10:24:53 pm
Advice being passed around
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I'm sure we all want to take responsibility for ourselves and those around us. I hope you find these simple notes useful


Seems that this advice might in fact be questionable, if not false.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/craigsilverman/coronavirus-drink-water-advice-debunk[/size]
Title: Re: Pandemic
Post by: FOGGY on 13 Mar, 2020, 08:02:10 am
IMO this virus has caused a pandemic of mass hysteria and unnecessary reactions. I’m quite sure I’ve had it too. At Christmas I had all the symptoms exactly, I also had something very similar just after Christmas 2018. At both times I was glad it wasn’t the flue as I’ve had that twice in my life and both times thought I was going to die.
If you actually study the symptoms, infection and recovery it really is just a virus among thousands that people get all the time with the unfortunate scenario that some vulnerable people with a underlying lung condition will die as with flue that’s life everyone dies eventually, something gets you. Back in the day when the world was bigger and the population was half it is now pre internet this virus wouldn’t even had made the daily mirror or daily express depending on your slant. Unfortunately we have a world media that are thriving on this like a dog/Rottweiler with a bone.
Title: Re: Pandemic
Post by: Roscoe on 13 Mar, 2020, 05:50:45 pm
If it's to be believed, a State of alarm is to be announced tomorrow.
Title: Re: Pandemic
Post by: Judi_bk on 13 Mar, 2020, 06:20:43 pm
(https://i.postimg.cc/xCz2GSbG/jones-dontpanic-11.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/3RCLQSM5/download-jpeg.jpg)
Title: Re: Pandemic
Post by: frankie on 14 Mar, 2020, 10:27:56 am
 :cheesy: :cheesy: :cheesy:
Title: Re: Pandemic
Post by: frankie on 14 Mar, 2020, 07:02:03 pm
Spain has announced that as from monday all bars, restaurants, schools, shops (apart from food) etc will be closed.  I wonder if all bars will be shut?  I know most in Purchena were closed today and the only one open was closing at 3.
Title: Re: Pandemic
Post by: Mullberry on 15 Mar, 2020, 09:08:56 am
I also wonder if all bars will be shut but why are airports not on the list, thats probably where a largest % of the problem stems from. This list ( yes a bit long...sorry) is just todays arrivals at Madrid. 1 of over 1200 international airports which today will see around 15000 - 25000 arriving aircraft, Christ almighty theres one in from China just gone 6am.
1 infected person in amongst 300 on one flight and some of those going on to connected flights will ensure that the virus is in an unknown number of countries by end of day.
According to figures i find this virus appear to have a mortality rate of about 2%. Bad news if you or your family/friends are one of the 2%, (HARSH COMMENT HERE) but not the end of the world.
The end of the world arrives when,,,,One day, next week, next month, next year, Ebola gets on a plane and nobody notices. That has a mortality rate of over 90%. it won't matter how many toilet rolls or bottles of hand wash you have. With an incubation time as little as 2 days you will be the wrong side of the flower bed before the end of the week.
SHUT DOWN AIR TRAVEL NOW......
Title: Re: Pandemic
Post by: FOGGY on 15 Mar, 2020, 09:50:19 am
Same ol storey it’s all about the money