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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Judi_bk on 20 Jun, 2020, 07:26:57 am
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Sunburnt Arms has had to close saying because there is "another case in the village". I read somewhere else it is a Brit couple and he is confirmed and in hospital. Not sure if "the village" is Piedra Amarillo or Partaloa, STAY SAFE EVERYBODY
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Judi, it is a British couple who live in Piedra Amarilla - the husband has contracted it. Piedra Amarilla comes under Partaloa town hall and they have closed The Hub Community Centre, Lorena's Cafe Bar and Sunburnt Arms which are all in Piedra, the closure will be reviewed on Monday following a meeting between the owners and town hall and on medical advise. This is the first case in the municipality of Partaloa.
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Crikey, I do wish whoever it is well and that he has a quick recovery. I also hope they can track his contacts so they can self isolate, as the thought of another lockdown period does not bear thinking about...
It just proves that this epidemic maybe slowing down but the fact remains that there is no cure and it is very much still with us and will be until (if)they find a vaccine against it.
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Apparently they were at a music gig, this is what happens when people congregate for a length of time. The next worry is when and if brits are allowed into Spain, either for holidays or visiting relatives and mingling locally. :thumbsdown:
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Yes he’s a neighbour of ours. We don’t mix with groups of people because it’s too risky. We will self isolate again for another 2 weeks as unfortunately I’m classed as high risk.
We were in Mojacar on Friday and the number of people without masks in shops was ridiculous
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I was in Albox yesterday and didn't see one bare face, although several had them on their chin ready to pull up over the nose when people came near them.
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Personally believe anyone and everyone over 55 is at risk even if they are presumably fit and healthy and for that reason alone all expats here should take extra care .
We, like everyone, miss family and friends. Be they in the locale or in another country.
Unfortunately this virus is something we have to live with at the moment so any unnecessarily mixing with hoards of strangers is something IMO to be avoided for a while.
If not for ones own health but for the sake of ones neighbours.
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That's one of the things with this virus, you *might* get symptoms, you *might* throw it off, you *might* even need hospital treatment or even worse BUT it takes 2-14 days to show itself and if you are out and about for even a short time everyday just think of the number of people you *might* pass it on to, either by direct closeness or *might* leave it on a chair/table/surface you've touched.
It's a *mighty* problem. Thinking you are invincible does not help the rest of the population or yourself.
n.b. I went into a building yesterday afternoon, masks obligatory, handwash on the way in and a security guard with a temperature gun pointed at my forehead. No problem! On the way out a separate door (guard sat in the middle of the two) he looked a bit surprised when I asked him to pass the handwash as none available when exiting the building. Phfff..
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He lives around the corner from me and is in the high risk category so probably not a good idea to go to a local music gig. Personally I think it's too soon for people to mingle in pubs especially when they have underlying health problems.
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I know we are now permitted to go inside bars but I much prefer being outside on the one day I go to Purchena Market and have a coffee.
I cannot imagine why anyone would want to be in a crowd at the moment. The rest of the time I stay home with my cat for company. I know she isn't likely to infect me..
I do hope there isn't a second wave after people have been involved in the Black Lives Matter protest, even though I agree with the sentiment.
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After Monday, Frankie, we will find out because that’s the day people can enter other regions.
Not for us though, too soon, and certainly not impressed when reading someone from Arboleas is desperate to visit Lorca on Monday.
Just hope they mask up.
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I'm still in personal choice Lockdown so hope to avoid any stupid selfish people going to events such as "Music Gigs", FFS. :sad:
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As promised the result of the meeting this morning.
Announcement re the case of Covid 19 in La Piedra Amarilla
We know this had been a worrying time. First of all I would like to thank everyone for their vigilance and patience over the weekend.
After the weekend consultation the council are now in a position to say that both bars and other enterprises can open today as normal.
After long discussions during the meeting with the Mayor this morning, The Sunburnt Arms, Lorena’s the Hub have collectively taken the decision not to open until July 3rd (two week).
They made this decision to ensure the safety of the communities they serve, the safety of their families and staff, even though they have been advised that they can reopen.
I would like to thank Lorena’s, The Sunburnt Arms and the hub for their cooperation and help this weekend. During this difficult period all three venues have acted in an exemplary way to ensure the safety of their customers.
All three venues have completely disinfected inside and out as per the regulations, they will continue as long as required.
Can all customers please be aware that the bars and their staff are applying the rules strictly for your safety, please bear this in mind when you are reminded of the need to strictly adhere to all rules.
I know a case of Covid 19 in the village came both as a shock and a wake up call to everyone in the village. It shows the need to still be vigilant.
Those people who have to self isolate are now aware of need to do so. For everyone else please take care and stick to the rules that are still in place despite the end of the State of Alarm. Remember this mean masks at all times when distancing is not possible.
The villages of La Piedra Amarilla were disinfected on Saturday morning before 9am, and will be gain before the bars open on July 3rd.
What does the new normality consist of? In this new stage, which begins on Sunday, mobility restrictions imposed by the state of alarm will end but hygiene and safe-distancing measures will remain. The government has approved a Royal Decree that sets out the obligatory use of masks when a safe inter-personal distance of 1.5 meters cannot be maintained, with fines of up to €100 if this is not observed.
Once again thank you to everyone. Don’t forget each time you leave home you need to be aware COVID 19 has not disappeared.
Steve Conroy
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Well done to the bars and all people involved. :tiphat:
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I agree, well done and great work by the authorities but....
Normally reliably sources today mentioned that the problem was that the gentleman concerned had a heart problem and collapsed, when the emergency services arrived they tested for Covid and it was positive but it's also suggested that his wife was not tested but is now self-isolating?
They had been into Mojacar recently, his wife works at Maz's dog shop and the music "do" was at the Sunburnt. They had also been into Total Entertainment in Albox - so be careful, it's not gone away yet and you don't know where or when it *might* find you :cry:
Stay safe :thumbsup:
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With the flights coming in from Germany and UK, I am shielding and isolating, scary. :angry:
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I heard similar to you Drax except that he was at a routine appointment at HO hospital for a check up following his heart attack last year when he was tested.
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I heard similar to you Drax except that he was at a routine appointment at HO hospital for a check up following his heart attack last year when he was tested.
Nope, taken by ambulance
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Scary anyway for everyone, as said the Covid devil is still with us. Take care..... :evil:
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Apparently Japanese scientists believe aircon / recycled air causes most problems in catching COVID -19.
The test will be once holiday makers arrive in their droves via plane .
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Jimmy and Frankie You’re spot on totally irresponsible Going to pubs, festivals, music doos anywhere there’s crowds. The virus is still active and looking for plonkers to infect. I’ve got no sympathy for idiots.
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Ditto jess, aircon is a well known for harbouring for many nasties and bacteria’s, I swear I caught legionnaires disease from it in Ibiza, you don’t want that💉I truly thought I was going to die.
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Watching UK TV it now seems as if a new outbreak is expected in autumn rather than it being a possibility. I think I can assume the same will be the case here. Both Germany and China are now experiencing another outbreak right now. I listened to a boffin saying that each time there is a new outbreak the Virus is evolving. I wonder what that means in terms of a vaccine as surely scientists will constantly be playing catch-up?
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Even if they find a vaccine there is no way I'll be having it after all this shambles by the scientists
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FOGGY, my husband also had the misfortune to catch legionnaires. In his case from our irrigation system.
Hospitalised for 16 days but, like you, fortunately survived to tell the tale.
Living in Spain certainly saved his life as condition was immediately recognised at RM hospital.
A VERY VERY nasty disease of which we are constantly reminded due to it’s feint similarity to COVID.
Since then we have tried to distance ourselves from public buildings, street fountains, bags of compost and aeroplanes .
Suppose, for we of a certain age, this is now the new normal. :huh:
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I hate aircon and never use ours. We do have a fountain but fill it from the pool where the water is treated.
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Just heard that he's back home from hospital.
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My cousins husband (is that a cousin-in-law?) is one of the UK experts in Air-Con and water based diseases like Legionnaires, he travels the world advising the big hotel chains, cruise liners and the like about their water storage tanks, shower systems, air-con units etc.
If you're worried about this type of disease you should also think about the depositos in your gardens :whistle: :crazy:
We refused to have one installed many years ago when the water supply was off more than it was on.
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Just heard that he's back home from hospital.
Great news, hope he's recovering quickly and no recurring or long-term effects. :thumbsup:
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Yes, good to hear he's home now
The first thing I did when I bought my house was to install A/C in every room. I could not use it for 22 months as electric was not connected. When it was, I used it briefly but not since as it played hell with my sinuses. A total waste of money.
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Frankie, ordinary house air con isn’t a problem ( except on sinuses).
It is hospitals, Government buildings or any building of size with a water tower.
Similar with fountains, Judi.
Only the street ones are a problem because they use “dirty”water which the weather warms and cools.
Also it isn’t the stagnant water that actually causes legionnaires, indeed it can be safely swallowed....not that we would want to...but the droplets in the air that are invisibly inhaled into the mouth and nose when fountain/ air on in operation.
All this info came via local Murcian authority who investigated cause of my husband catching it.
They checked everything, shower heads, aircon, taps. All clear, until they checked irrigation system..and wow, trillions of bugs.
So, anyone on mains water, even if not potable, no worries.
Actually of the most dangerous thing, that we ALL utilise, is the car screen washer.
Warmed up stagnant water suddenly spraying over the windscreen.
So ALWAYS ensure windows are closed before using.
Likewise bags of compost .Take care when opening the bag to avoid the spores blowing around.
COVID....that’s another problem that will be solved...just not sure how soon
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Useful info, JessicaH. I had previously thought it came from unserviced A/C units. It still won't encourage me to use the A/C in my house as I suffer so badly with sinus problemswhen it is on (oddly enough I am OK in the car).
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Frankie, Sealed units, as in property aircon, never a problem. Regardless of not being serviced.
Do agree though they do seem to cause runny eyes and stuffy noses.
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My units were installed over 16 years ago. Might be down to old age (them, not me - well yes, me too!)
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Same length of time as ours frankie 2004 ours. have managed to replace 2 in the last couple of years but have 2 to go. Bloody expensive things to replace, never mind it's only money! :laugh: :laugh:
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As mine have not been in use since 2005 and I have no intention of ever using them again, I will not be replacing them. I have got through several electric fans though! :grin: