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Title: Gordon Condrey
Post by: Raymondo on 25 Jul, 2019, 10:35:31 am
Anyone who had property dealings with Condrey will be so interested in this award.
There are hundreds of people around Arboleas who would love to catch up with him  to congratulate him. ( Sic )

https://www.lavozdealmeria.com/noticia/3/provincia/175854/una-decada-con-el-valle-del-almanzora
Title: Re: Gordon Condrey
Post by: Clare Shirley on 25 Jul, 2019, 10:44:23 am
Shocked he really should have that award :undecided:
Title: Re: Gordon Condrey
Post by: Drax on 25 Jul, 2019, 10:45:12 am
It's not difficult to catch up with him Ray, he's in his Nave or perhaps having a coffee in the bar in front of it most days of the week.  :tiphat:
Title: Re: Gordon Condrey
Post by: frankie on 25 Jul, 2019, 07:11:06 pm
I thought he was long gone.  Is he perhaps going back into property development again as the market seems to be rising?
Title: Re: Gordon Condrey
Post by: knowall on 25 Jul, 2019, 07:22:40 pm
Gordon is like us all, imperfect. However there are hundreds of people who would never have achieved their dream in Spain without his help. I and my wife are two of them. My mother-in-law was another. He's a very likeable rascal.
There were far worse developers.
Title: Re: Gordon Condrey
Post by: Raymondo on 25 Jul, 2019, 07:31:34 pm
Sorry Knowall,. " A likeable rascal ".  Are you for real. ???
Ask the many  homeowners who this likeable rascal helped to buy in places like Los Menchones who still after many years cant get the paperwork on the property that they bought and paid in full  unless they now cough up quite a large sum of money to him.
" A likeable rascal indeed "
He was nominated for this award with the help of the Mayor of Arboleas who is a personal friend.
Do I need to say more. !!??
🙈🙉🙊
Title: Re: Gordon Condrey
Post by: Doreen on 25 Jul, 2019, 07:36:30 pm
I saw this man in action confronting some new neighbours of ours. He is award material, but not for this award.
Title: Re: Gordon Condrey
Post by: AnnieM on 25 Jul, 2019, 07:59:05 pm
I have no connection or knowledge of this man but I know several people who will not hear a word against him.
Title: Re: Gordon Condrey
Post by: Raymondo on 26 Jul, 2019, 10:51:19 am
This was recently posted by Roger Done who is acting on behalf of clients to sort out illegal properties for various reasons.
Its clear that Condrey has left an enormous mess and serious expense for his clients who bought in good faith from him.
Make what you will of it but he is no " likeable rascal " as knowall said.

GORDON CONDREY
This seems to be the most complicated situation. From information I have Gordon has ownership of all the land in Los Menchones and Calle Zoraida.
However the ownership has not been registered. When he registers the land there will be a tax of 8% to pay, which I estimate will be equivalent to around 2000 euros per plot.
When the Project of Parcelisation is prepared it will be necessary to cede 10% to the Town Hall.
I think there is some land to cede in Los Menchones (but not enough) and none in Calle Zoraida.
This will therefore mean there will have to be a financial compensation estimated around 2000 euros per plot.
This is the cost to the builder, but creates a problem if he does not have the money, because he is no longer trading.
I am also informed that, instead of the clients paying 1.5% to register the house and land combined, they will have to register the land separately and pay 8% tax., adding around 1500 euros to the tax.

I am trying to clarify this issue.

There are also some other issues which will have to be clarified:-

Some houses have been resold, some on private contracts and some with escrituras!.
This raised legal and financial issues to be clarafied.
Title: Re: Gordon Condrey
Post by: Drax on 26 Jul, 2019, 01:32:57 pm
This was recently posted
in 2017...
Title: Re: Gordon Condrey
Post by: Raymondo on 26 Jul, 2019, 01:51:30 pm
Only just  found it Drax there was no date on it that i saw   but it still applies in Los Mechones.!!
Nothing has changed, he is still asking people for large sums of money to release paperwork ( if he has any )
The poor property owner has to carry the can for Condrey.
I notice on the other forum he has again been described as a friendly rascal by one of his pals but they have not been as polite with their replies on that forum.
Anyway happy grandad day.
Title: Re: Gordon Condrey
Post by: Drax on 26 Jul, 2019, 02:17:45 pm
The links for complaints to LaVox is on their site but in case you missed it:
Avda. Del Mediterráneo 159, 04007, Almería • Telephone: +34 950 181818 • atencionalcliente@lavozdealmeria.com

Customer service:
centralita@lavozdealmeria.com / atencionalcliente@lavozdealmeria.com

Title: Re: Gordon Condrey
Post by: Raymondo on 26 Jul, 2019, 02:30:24 pm
Thanks for that really helpful friendly information Drax, I will be on the blower to them shortly.
After ive had a chuckle and a lie down.
As Tommy Cooper said " Just Like That "
Title: Re: Gordon Condrey
Post by: jimmymac on 26 Jul, 2019, 05:49:16 pm
Don't know this Gordon Condrey but from what I have heard over the years has hardly been very complimentary. So to hear that he has been recommended for an award now is quite frankly, flipping astonishing... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Gordon Condrey
Post by: knowall on 26 Jul, 2019, 08:22:10 pm
Sorry Knowall,. " A likeable rascal ".  Are you for real. ???
Yes, I am for real. Many people on here have met me and know me as John. I met Gordon in 1995 and bought an old cortijo from him in December that year.
He organised the transfer of that cortijo into my wife's name. He then had it demolished. He applied to the town hall and got a building licence. A new house was built and the town hall issued a licence of first occupation. A registered escritura was obtained via Huércal-Overa property office.
I have known him since 1995 although I've not seen him for a few years now.
He didn't do us any harm at all.
I speak as I find. How did you get on with him when you met him, Raymondo, or are you just going on hearsay?
Title: Re: Gordon Condrey
Post by: frankie on 27 Jul, 2019, 09:02:57 am
In all honesty he was only doing what many others were at that time.  It was the way things had been done since time immemorial.
I bought my house, it was 15 years old, in 2004.  I have an escritura, signed by all including the Notary.  However, it is illegal as it should not have been built on unsegregated land.  All those responsible could not understand why I was annoyed.  I am still trying to get it made legal.  :huh:
Title: Re: Gordon Condrey
Post by: Clare Shirley on 27 Jul, 2019, 10:30:44 am
John you must be one of the few people he didnt con or lose the paperwork


A friend dad had a property with his second wife, they have both died, the daughters one from side, went to sell the house no paperwork. The house was fully furnished with expensive furniture and white goods and was sold as such the only person who had keys was Gordon

the new buyers arrived at the house and its empty no sign of break in, no damage,. Gordon not answering to any calls, but when they did get a hold of him he said must have been squatters
Title: Re: Gordon Condrey
Post by: Raymondo on 27 Jul, 2019, 10:33:00 am
Yes Frankie but giving him this award just rubs salt in the wounds .
Yours and hundreds of others. And I have met this "  likeable  rascal " John and I  also know  many cheated homeowners in Los Menchones who having been cheated by him now have to watch him lording it around Mora Oil and other places whilst he wants thousands more to  ( help ) them get what thay paid him in full for already. Nice man indeed John.
Maura Hillen has worked for years to save houses from being demolished and was and still is successful in halting many demolitions
Caused by bent property developers and agents and Crooked Mayors
But she was not nominated by our Mayor for this award. Why. ???
Because she opposes what these crooks gave been doing for years. !!
Its like giving an award  to the Great Train Robbers.
Thats my view on this award which is very muted and polite compared to the views  on this likeable rascals award on the other forum.
Things must be quiet on Knowalls other  forum to be  backing his pal on this and the blue the  forum especially as he hasnt seen his pal for years.  !!  Yeah right.
Have a nice weekend all.
Title: Re: Gordon Condrey
Post by: knowall on 27 Jul, 2019, 10:46:48 am
Clare, it wasn't just Gordon "losing paperwork". When I was researching getting the original plans and Architect's approval end of works certificate for a different house. The Albox architect, who had filed all their previous archives in Almería - told me that the whole lot had been destroyed in a fire some years previous to my request.
This was work relating to scores of new houses in the Almanzora valley.
I suspect that there was a lot of evidence in those files to convict people of dirty dealings and the fire was a very convenient way out.
You've probably heard about this, as I know you have helped a lot of people with interpreting.
Title: Re: Gordon Condrey
Post by: Doreen on 27 Jul, 2019, 01:01:14 pm
Knowall, it doesn't matter who else 'lost paperwork', the fact here is you admit GC lost paperwork.
I know of a street full of people who would to see him brought to justice, unfortunately this award is like him giving them the two fingers.

Title: Re: Gordon Condrey
Post by: jimmymac on 27 Jul, 2019, 05:41:02 pm
I knew some of the "likeable rascals" in the early 2000's but in the Cantoria and Albox area's and they were very likeable until you queried or disagreed with their methods or dealings in the property market. That was when the "likeable rascals" turned into "swindling, crooked mean bastards" who didn't care what damage or injury they caused to people and their lives. So f**k the "likeable rascals" as I prefer being a boring old honest whinger.  :huh:
Title: Re: Gordon Condrey
Post by: knowall on 27 Jul, 2019, 06:33:56 pm
Gordon always used to say the biggest troublemakers were the ones who owed him money.
Title: Re: Gordon Condrey
Post by: Doreen on 27 Jul, 2019, 06:39:00 pm
Are you serious???
Title: Re: Gordon Condrey
Post by: Raymondo on 27 Jul, 2019, 06:45:06 pm
Im beginning to think Knowall John that you are The likeable rascal incognito.
You have been peddling this lovely Gordon nonsense on all Forums  and I cant see any other reason why you would stand up for someone with his well known chequered  and not so nice background.
Have to agree 100% with Jimmymac
By the way Knowall John  your last post speaks for itself and for you.
Cant imagine who owes crafty Gordon money as he has bled his lnnocent customers dry at this stage.
Anyway i am on the Guinness and the Craic here for a few more weeks. Slan .
Title: Re: Gordon Condrey
Post by: Drax on 27 Jul, 2019, 07:52:58 pm
Im beginning to think Knowall John that you are The likeable rascal incognito.
Anyway i am on the Guinness
nuff said
Title: Re: Gordon Condrey
Post by: knowall on 27 Jul, 2019, 07:59:22 pm
Im beginning to think Knowall John that you are The likeable rascal incognito.
You have been peddling this lovely Gordon nonsense on all Forums  and I cant see any other reason why you would stand up for someone with his well known chequered  and not so nice background.
Have to agree 100% with Jimmymac
By the way Knowall John  your last post speaks for itself and for you.
Cant imagine who owes crafty Gordon money as he has bled his lnnocent customers dry at this stage.
Anyway i am on the Guinness and the Craic here for a few more weeks. Stan .
You're a religious Catholic aren't you Raymondo?
Have you read Proverbs 20 verse 1?
Best wishes to Stan.  :hi:
Title: Re: Gordon Condrey
Post by: Raymondo on 27 Jul, 2019, 09:29:16 pm
Yes Knowall , I am indeed a catholic whatever thats got to do with anything .??  Weird , really weird post.
Obviously if you cant have a civilized discussion you resort to personal insults and comments on my religion.
You are one weird individual Knowall John. Well named.
As for Drax , well  there is not much craic (. Or fun. ) In your life.
Try a drop iof Guinness sometimes , it might make you a happier person.
well maybe not. !!!
I will now leave you to it  as this thread is getting a bit too weird for me.
Have to be up early for mass . Buenas Noches.
Title: Re: Gordon Condrey
Post by: knowall on 27 Jul, 2019, 10:32:48 pm

Obviously if you cant have a civilized discussion you resort to personal insults and comments on my religion.
It certainly was not meant to be a personal insult. But I consider being accused of impersonating someone else a personal attack.
I'll forgive that though, as you say you have been drinking.
¡Buenos noches!
Title: Re: Gordon Condrey
Post by: Doreen on 28 Jul, 2019, 09:14:24 am
What a condescending post !!!!!!
Title: Re: Gordon Condrey
Post by: jimmymac on 28 Jul, 2019, 10:27:29 am
Time to get the friendly back h to this forum.
Title: Re: Gordon Condrey
Post by: frankie on 28 Jul, 2019, 12:00:07 pm
Maybe time for this thread to be locked before the insults start flying? :lips-sealed:
Title: Re: Gordon Condrey
Post by: Raymondo on 28 Jul, 2019, 12:35:47 pm
I am totally finished with this post  Frankie  so  no need to lock it as it is finished.
Hopefully.
Title: Re: Gordon Condrey
Post by: frankie on 28 Jul, 2019, 06:52:27 pm
Sounds good, Raymondo.  It's too 'ot for arguments.....
Title: Re: Gordon Condrey
Post by: Marcus on 30 Jul, 2019, 12:52:41 am
https://murciatoday.com/resentment_as_promoter_of_illegally_built_property_in_the_almazora_valley_wins_award_1047612-a.html

Maybe the award will spur Gordon on to rectify those illegal homes. Time will tell. May require Big Ben.